Abolishment Proposal 1: Rule 4 (PASSED)
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Abolishment Proposal 1: Rule 4 (PASSED)
The fourth rule of this council states:
Vote: Yes.
This proposal would repeal and abolish the aforementioned legislation.When a Proposal passes, any players that cast "No" votes on the Proposal will gain 1 point.
Vote: Yes.
Mokina- Cartographer
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Re: Abolishment Proposal 1: Rule 4 (PASSED)
vote: no
Once again, I win either way. This is fun!
Once again, I win either way. This is fun!
Cybele- Council Member
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Re: Abolishment Proposal 1: Rule 4 (PASSED)
Vote: No
Although I can't think of it ATM, taking this rule out of the game ruins the point of have the other three basic rules.
Although I can't think of it ATM, taking this rule out of the game ruins the point of have the other three basic rules.
Re: Abolishment Proposal 1: Rule 4 (PASSED)
I think this rule is important, but it allows people to collect points by voting no on props that will most likely pass. I think an amendment to this rule is the answer, not a complete repeal.
pyrodwarf- Activist
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Re: Abolishment Proposal 1: Rule 4 (PASSED)
vote:YES It sems reasonable.
animorpherv1- Council Member
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Re: Abolishment Proposal 1: Rule 4 (PASSED)
Pyrodwarf has it right, I think. We need a system for players to collect points. What we don't want is a chenhsi Cybele situation.
Sorry. Read the name wrong.
Sorry. Read the name wrong.
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Mokina- Cartographer
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Re: Abolishment Proposal 1: Rule 4 (PASSED)
whats a chenhsi situation? My main concern is a prop. getting really close to dead line, then having a bunch of people switch their votes to get points. Maybe set it up so that if it passes, the no votes get points, and if it fails, the yes votes get points?
for now vote: no
for now vote: no
pyrodwarf- Activist
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Re: Abolishment Proposal 1: Rule 4 (PASSED)
But why reward people for obstructing what's generally accepted by the community? That seems doubly wrong.
Mokina- Cartographer
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Re: Abolishment Proposal 1: Rule 4 (PASSED)
true enough. If this is abolished, passing proposals will be the sole point generation. I think this would be alright, for a time. Points currently have no meaning, anyways.
pyrodwarf- Activist
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Re: Abolishment Proposal 1: Rule 4 (PASSED)
There's no reason to reward voting against good propositions. That's the key, plain and simple.
I would oppose any rule that turns the point system into something meaningful. It has lost pretty much all legitimacy in my eyes.
I would oppose any rule that turns the point system into something meaningful. It has lost pretty much all legitimacy in my eyes.
Mokina- Cartographer
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Re: Abolishment Proposal 1: Rule 4 (PASSED)
vote;YES!!!!!!!!!!!!! It would be unfair, and we would not get any new proposals.
animorpherv1- Council Member
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Re: Abolishment Proposal 1: Rule 4 (PASSED)
oh dang, i meant to change vote: yes
pyrodwarf- Activist
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Re: Abolishment Proposal 1: Rule 4 (PASSED)
but if this passes, you will no longer get points for voting no on a passing prop.Cybele wrote:vote: no
Once again, I win either way. This is fun!
Will that take effect immediately, negating this point?
pyrodwarf- Activist
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Re: Abolishment Proposal 1: Rule 4 (PASSED)
I can only assume this will take effect after Cybele's points have been awarded. Whatever.
I must respectfully disagree.
The first rule establishes a very clear majority-based voting process. The second and third rules cause players to lose a point for a failed proposal and effectively gain a point for a passed one. Looking at it more abstractly, the point system under the second and third rules is an indicator of how acceptable a given player's proposals are to the community.
Points awarded by the fourth rule, on the other hand, are a measure of how anti-community a player is... after all, it's basically a tally of how willing they are to oppose acceptable proposals in exchange for points.
skitzer wrote:Vote: No
Although I can't think of it ATM, taking this rule out of the game ruins the point of have the other three basic rules.
I must respectfully disagree.
The first rule establishes a very clear majority-based voting process. The second and third rules cause players to lose a point for a failed proposal and effectively gain a point for a passed one. Looking at it more abstractly, the point system under the second and third rules is an indicator of how acceptable a given player's proposals are to the community.
Points awarded by the fourth rule, on the other hand, are a measure of how anti-community a player is... after all, it's basically a tally of how willing they are to oppose acceptable proposals in exchange for points.
Mokina- Cartographer
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Re: Abolishment Proposal 1: Rule 4 (PASSED)
Voting has ended on this Proposal.
There are 3 Yeas.
There are 2 Nays.
This Proposal has passed.
There are 3 Yeas.
There are 2 Nays.
This Proposal has passed.
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